.: AUGUST - SEPTEMBER 2004

Photos: The “divine Miss Deborah” Harry (above and top right). Freddy doing his best “Marlene Mercury”. Debbie Harry photos COPYRIGHT © Mick Rock 2004.

HE PALLED AROUND WITH BOWIE, BLONDIE AND QUEEN IN THEIR HEYDAY, AND SURVIVED YEARS OF "CHEMICAL HABITS" AND "WANTON BEHAVIOUR." NOW ROCK PHOTOGRAPHER MICK ROCK IS USING HIS INFAMOUS PAST TO MOVE INTO THE FUTURE. AS HE TELLS SEAN PLUMMER, "I DON’T KNOW WHAT BORING IS."

PHOTOGRAPHY BY MICK ROCK

NEW YORK – “If we didn’t need f**kin’ art, we wouldn’t have to deal with f**kin’ artists – and they’re a subversive lot at the best of times. If I had my way, I’d take them all out at dawn and put a bullet in the backs of their heads.”
   Mick Rock is being outrageous again. The self-described “lanky bugger from London” with the dry sense of humour (as demontrated above) is waxing eloquent on a myriad of topics in a busy Starbucks across from New York’s Union Square. When the opportunity arises – which is not often – I ask a question. Before I know it, two and a half hours have passed.
   Mick Rock is a great talker. Luckily he has lots to talk about. The notorious photographer has spent more than 30 years documenting – and perpetuating the mythology of – some of the most influential figures in recent popular culture, many of whom he also calls friends. They include David Bowie, Lou Reed, Freddy Mercury, Iggy Pop and Debbie Harry. Then there’s the drugs, the sex, the brush with death, and the rise from the proverbial ashes – all of which we touch on. Rock is generous with his time and doles out countless anecdotes. This story could go on for pages and you’d be fascinated every step. So let’s begin, shall we?
• • •
Who is Mick David Rock? You may not know the name but you likely know his work. He produced many of the ‘70s most iconic rock images, some of which adorn these pages. There’s Bowie (as Ziggy Stardust) fellating Mick Ronson’s guitar. He did the album covers for Iggy & The Stooges’ Raw Power, Queen’s Queen II and Lou Reed’s Transformer. Blondie singer Debbie Harry’s Penthouse cover was his. More recently, he has photographed the Yeah Yeah Yeahs and Kate Moss, and shot fashion for magazines like Nylon and Playboy.
   Like his rock star friends, the London-born Rock, who relocated to New York in the late ‘70s, lived fast for many years and very nearly died young. His body finally caught up with his habits in November 1996 when he had a heart attack during a photoshoot along New York’s West Side Highway. Years of admittedly “wanton behaviour” culminated in successful quadruple bypass heart surgery. Suitably chastened, Rock detoxed and threw his considerable energies into his work. He’s published seven books of photography since 1995 and overseen exhibitions of his photos in galleries as far apart as Tokyo and Liverpool. There are more books planned (Transformer, a Lou Reed retrospective, is next), and he’s working on a novella which he plans to turn into a movie. Ask him why he stays so busy and he replies, “I remember when I wasn’t.”
   Seven and a half years ago, he notes, “my boat was almost dead in the water, and so was I. So in seven and a half years it has changed dramatically. Obviously I’ve been very focused, obviously it’s come to me, but I’ve also worked at it.”
   Much of our time is spent discussing Debbie Harry and Queen, the subjects of his two most recent books. Picture This: Debbie Harry and Blondie (Sanctuary Publishing) documents Harry (and her Blondie bandmates), from early CBGB gigs in the summer of 1976 through glam shots at the height of their popularity in 1979 to a 1998 reunion shoot with the singer (captured on an accompanying DVD). Killer Queen (Genesis Publications) is a gorgeous, limited edition hardcover that compiles images from Queen’s early years, from their seminal Imperial College gig in ‘73 through to the career-defining, black & white-themed Queen II album cover shots and beyond. Both are essential documents for anyone interested in the history of rock & roll.
• • •
So what do you get from Debbie Harry, Mick?
   “What do you mean by a question like that?” Rock asks, mock aghast. “‘What do I get from her?’ Like favours, do you mean? Well, obviously I deal in image, especially rock & roll image. Somebody like the divine Miss Deborah is custom-built for me. I can invent people but it’s much easier when they’re self-invented and I can riff off that.”
   What Rock focused on during their sessions was “this punk Marilyn thing” the music press had tagged her with. Rock, a fan of blondes, says, “I don’t give a f**k about the punk. It was the Marilyn bit that I was excited about.”
   At the time, as far as influential New York females were concerned, Debbie Harry rarely got the credit she deserved, Rock says. Instead, Patti Smith ruled while Harry was dismissed as “just something kind of trivial. But uh uh, uh uh. Passage of time has turned out to tell you that Debbie Harry is much more important than Pat. And not that Patti doesn’t have her place, but in the grand order of things I think [Debbie’s] way more important.
   “Certainly just take it from my point of view, the photogenic point of view. She’s by far the most photogenic creature to come down the rock & roll pipe, and she’s always very post-modern. She understood early on that she could be a sexy lady and still be a feminist... at the same time. She didn’t have to have hairy armpits or not bathe, not use make-up or not have clean underwear to be a feminist. You can totally play to the female part of your gene system, and it’s totally authentic. I think the passage of time has proven that.”
• • •
“Did people realize [Freddy Mercury] was gay? Well, he was hip. He was clearly ambi, he was clearly androgynous and bisexual, and that was what was important. ‘Do they do it with boys? Don’t they do it with boys?’ It didn’t matter. That was all part of the game. That was what everybody was excited about. So was Freddy gay? Well, it was sort of obvious, and the band was called Queen.”
   Rock obviously retains a deep affection for Queen singer Freddy Mercury (né Frederick Bulsara), who died of complications from AIDS in 1991. “I loved his strong attitude about himself,” he says. “It was tempered with a certain personal humility. His public persona was a little different privately. He was a sweet guy. His was a generous heart, a generous spirit. I don’t know if he was ever that in love with himself. He loved theatre; yes, of course he did. And he was flamboyant, he was camp. But I don’t know that he necessarily loved himself. I think he was, like most of us, beset with insecurities.”
   Not that those insecurities manifested themselves on film. The quartet of Mercury, guitarist Brian May, drummer Roger Taylor and bassist John Deacon captured in Killer Queen is both confident and regal, sure of its rightful place in the rock & roll pantheon even before the massive success of 1975's ‘Bohemian Rhapsody’ single. Still, it took Mercury’s belief in the power of image to convince the others that Rock’s provocative ideas, including shooting the band naked from the waist up (see image below), were good ones. “The rest of the band was slightly intimidated by that, but Freddy thought it was fabulous because they got some interest finally.

   “As we who have been around the media a bit all know, it don’t matter how you get that initial attention,” Rock says. “First get the attention, and it’s up to you what you make of it. I mean, no one gave a f**k about Paris Hilton until there was this video of her on the Internet getting porked. She was around, but no one really cared that much until there was a moment that people could criticize.
   “Freddy thought, ‘Who cares about pretentious? If you don’t pretend, you’re never going to be.’ He had more of an Oscar Wilde attitude to this stuff, and so did I. I’d seen it happen with David [Bowie]. If the music’s good enough, get the attention.”
   Needless to say, the music was good enough and the band’s legacy remains intact. As for comparisons between Queen and new English rock heroes The Darkness, who have been slagged off in some corners as a poor man’s Queen, Rock refuses to get drawn in. “I think it’s apples and onions, to be fair to both of them.”
   Rock’s photos of the band also retains their power. We Will Rock You, the Queen musical written by British comic Ben Elton and funded by American actor Robert De Niro, opens in September at Caesar’s Palace in Las Vegas. Caesar’s attempted to license Rock’s famous Marlene Dietrich-inspired Queen II album cover image to use in their promotional materials. Rock, turned off by their attitude, turned them down.
   “They’re so greedy about the money. I say, ‘No, f**k you.’ I don’t mind if I don’t make the money. I just don’t want to be looking in going, ‘Oh, give me this piddling amount of money, but you guys are making fortunes.’ I’d rather say ‘no, f**k it.’ I don’t need the money. I’d like to see the things out there more but bollocks. I have to deal with the animals, you see.”
• • •
It is safe to say that the Mick Rock of 2004 is less of a wild man than he was twenty years ago. He no longer prowls lower Manhattan in search of the next thrill. Instead, he, his wife and their 14-year-old daughter live in a house near the Staten Island Ferry. But the manic energy is still there, as evidenced by our 150-minute conversation and the long list of projects Rock has lined up. If he seems to have his life figured out a bit more than he used to, well, it wasn’t a straight path.
   “There was no route for a rock & roll photographer,” Rock says of his brilliant career. “Especially when I started out, people thought it was the end of rock & roll. Certainly David, Lou, Iggy and I all thought, ‘It’s the last days coming up’ – which only adds piquancy and intensity to the experience. And then it becomes punk. ‘Oh no, this is the last days of rock & roll!’ So I’ve lived through the last days a few times. Then I nearly finally died so I nearly had a last days. So those things add a certain amount of drama.
   “And then I had a lot of dead friends, not only Freddy and Mick Ronson but [Thin Lizzy’s] Phil Lynott, Rory Gallagher, Bill Gibb the fashion designer, Pierre Laroche the make-up artist. On the other hand, some people, like David, Lou and Iggy, should have been f**kin’ dead a long time ago! And however wild my lifestyle was – and of course I used to think it wasn’t so wild ‘cause these are the f**kin’ people I’m comparing myself to – you go, ‘Hang on a minute, man. Compared to the rest of the universe it was pretty damn extreme.’ But it’s a relative world.
   “I’ve not been bored,” Rock concludes. “People talk to me about boring, I say, ‘Don’t bother with it. I don’t know what boring is.’ I know what ‘f**ked up’ means. I know what ‘down’ means. I know what all these things mean. I don’t know the word ‘boring.’”

ROCK ON... Some of the veteran snapper’s many opinions:

ON DAVID BOWIE: “David is a star in the biggest sense of the word. He transcends the music. He is embraced on that other level. He’s like an uber-star, and he’s unique. And, of course, he still looks extraordinary. You go, ‘That f**kin’ David, man. Show me the f**kin’ painting in the attic one day, will you, Dave?’”
ON POLITICIANS: “I always believe that you should hold any politician’s feet to the fire 24 hours a day, 365 days a year. F**k all this ‘you’ve got to support the president, the president is the country’ that the right wing preaches. The president isn’t the f**king country. You start believing that, you have Nazi Germany. As far as I’m concerned, he’s just a public servant. F**king George Bush acts like he’s the king of the world.”
ON KAREN O. OF THE YEAH YEAH YEAHS: “She will tell you I did the best pictures of her. I’m very into Karen O. I think she’s terrific. Plus, she’s half Korean; she’s the first Oriental to front a western rock & roll band. I think she’s taken aback by all the attention they got because clearly... she wasn’t doing anything very obvious to be successful. That’s what I love about it. Relatively speaking, they may not be selling so many [records] yet but she’s creating a great space for herself to have a very fabulous career if she wants it.”
ON NEW YORK POST-9/11: “There’s nothing you can do about New York. You can blow up Manhattan, maybe that would work. It stunned New York for quite awhile and that is true. For that kind of disaster to have happened, I do not believe that any city in the world – and that includes my beloved London – could have recovered the way New York has as fast as it has. New York will keep going anyway.”


PICTURE THIS

Debbie Harry and Blondie by Mick Rock

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