.: JUNE-JULY 2002

Moby’s been called a lot of things since Play sold 10 million copies on the back of sharp-minded licensing deals that saw all 18 of its tracks farmed out to commercials, movies and soundtracks. Now he’s back with 18 more songs to dance, sob and sell to.
by Sean Plummer

   Moby is intrigued by Bif Naked.
   The New York-based electronic music superstar, in Toronto this past February to deliver the keynote address at Canadian Music Week and promote his new album 18, flips through the December-January Access, with Bif on the cover. He’s never heard of the punky Vancouver shouter and that interests him.
   “When I travel and do promotional tours,” he says, “you’ll go to certain countries and there will be artists within that country who are huge, but then outside of the country no one knows who they are. You go to Germany, and Rammstein in Germany sells millions of records and can sell out the equivalent of Madison Square Garden three nights in a row.
   “I don’t know why, I just find it so fascinating because I always, when I was growing up, had this idea that musicians were successful everywhere. Like the Rolling Stones. Everyone knew who the Rolling Stones were, and The Beatles and Led Zeppelin. And to have bands who can be hugely successful one place, then travel 10 minutes and no one knows who they are...”
   Where are you really popular, I ask?
   Unabashed, Moby gently points out the obvious. “Well, the last record went platinum in, I think, 30 different countries so it’s pretty international.”
   Oh, right. I forgot. The last album. That would be 1999’s Play. Made for about US$25,000 in Moby’s bedroom studio in New York. Sold 10 million copies and generated $150,000,000 for V2 Records. Every song licensed to TV and movies, including The Beach, Any Given Sunday and Big Daddy. Play, a critical favourite, becomes omnipresent, and Moby goes from playing clubs to arenas. He also performs at the Grammies, the Nobel Prize awards, and, more recently, the closing ceremonies of the winter Olympics in Salt Lake City. Play’s success also spawns Area: One, last summer’s profitable dance music tour that included Nelly Furtado, The Roots, Outkast and Paul Oakenfold. Area: Two is scheduled to take place later this summer or fall, and will feature David Bowie and Busta Rhymes, among others.
   Like the Rolling Stones and Led Zeppelin, Moby is about as “successful everywhere” as musicians get nowadays. Richard Melville Hall (Moby is a childhood nickname that references Moby Dick author and relative Herman Melville) has stepped up from the dance music underground to become a favourite of both the music intelligentsia and soccer moms. That transition, never a bloodless one, sparked its share of criticism, much of it accusing Moby of selling his soul.
   For his part, Moby was proud of Play and wanted it to be heard — by any means necessary. If that meant ‘Porcelain’ accompanying Leonardo DiCaprio romping on a beach, so be it. That Play was heard by millions of people, Moby acknowledges, was both gratifying and freeing. “In some ways I felt less pressure making this record than I’ve ever felt before. Because everything else I’ve done up until this point I’ve kind of felt like I had an ax to grind or had some agenda. And this is the first time where I kind of felt like ‘okay, it’s not a battle.’
   “As far as dealing with the public is concerned, it’s not a battle. Because with Play, it was a battle just to get people to listen to the record. With this record I relaxed a little bit, and the only thing I was trying to do — and this might sound really banal and simple — I was focusing just on music and not... feeling like I had to jump up and down to get people’s attention.”
   Which is not to say that Moby’s assimilation into popular culture is complete, a point brought home by NBC’s treatment of his Olympics performance. “I performed three times... and NBC in the States, basically, during the first performance, went to a commercial; during the second performance, showed shots of the audience; and, during the third performance, interviewed people in the parking lot. The problem there is whoever was producing the NBC broadcast was [from] NBC Sports, and people at NBC Sports were like ‘Moby? What’s Moby?’ They treated me like a bastard stepchild.”
   Not exactly healthy for one’s ego. Especially for Moby, a sufferer of chronic low self-esteem. And while he doesn’t walk with a stoop or mumble, his self-consciousness becomes evident in conversation by his frequent use of caveats like “but that’s just my opinion” and “from my perspective.” So wealth hasn’t cured him of his self-doubt?
   “It’s made it much worse,” he admits. “It’s funny, after the Olympics I was on this private plane with KISS and Earth, Wind & Fire. And [KISS bassist] Gene Simmons, I’d never spoken to him in my life, had never met him. We’re leaving the plane, he looks at me in all earnestness and says, ‘Moby, you are a powerful and attractive man.’ That’s all he said. And I was like, ‘Do you live in my head?’ It was very strange.
   “It’s hard to undo the emotional habits of 36 years,” he reasons. “To make an analogy, imagine you own a house. You buy this house and there’s tons of things wrong with it — the windows need replacing, the deck is falling apart, the kitchen is crappy — and then, all of a sudden, almost by magic, everything that was wrong with the house is fixed. And you step back, you look at it, and you’re like, wow, now that everything’s fixed, you realize that the foundation is sinking.
   “In some ways, [success] makes the feeling of inadequacy all the more glaring because everything you thought you’d taken care of you’ve taken care of, and you’re stuck thinking ‘what do I have to do now?’”
   Not that Moby yearns for a white picket fence and a little woman waiting at home for him to come off tour. “I almost feel like, in order for me to make good records, I have to feel bad about myself,” he says with only a slight trace of resignation. “If I were feeling self-satisfied and content with myself, I think I would feel less driven to make emotional music. My low self-esteem, as unpleasant as it can be, I recognize the utility of it. My favourite records tend to be striving, emotional, melancholic records, and you can’t make striving, emotional, melancholic records if you’re feeling happy and self-satisfied.”
   For Moby, his general dissatisfaction with the state of the world — and himself — is a small price to pay for artistic ambition. “If someone were to give me the very specific choice between being happy and making bad records and being unhappy and making good records, I would choose being unhappy and making good records. In a heartbeat. Which to me, it almost seems like it’s not even a choice. Maybe this is my own twisted take on it, but who in their right mind would choose to be happy and potentially give up the chance to make interesting art, as opposed to being unhappy and increasing your chances of making interesting art?
   “But I think most people would disagree with me,” he acknowledges. “Almost all my friends, if you gave them that choice, if you said ‘would you rather die happy with no great artistic accomplishments or die unhappy with a few great artistic accomplishments?’, most would choose ‘happy with no great artistic accomplishments.’ I, on the other hand, it’s not even a choice. And I’m not a miserable person. I don’t go sit in my hotel room and think about jumping out the window. But there’s always that sense of being unsettled and striving. Never quite content.
   “But I think that that’s healthy,” he reasons. “Conventional happiness — and it’s just my perspective and I know it’s wrong — conventional happiness always seemed a little bit...” — he fumbles for the word — “...weak. It always seemed like a cop-out, and it always seems in some ways like an inappropriate response to the circumstances of our existence.”
   The anthropological nature of our discussion — so much more interesting than discussing the album — culminates with further dissection of another of Moby’s inadequacies, his voice. “I wish I could sing better,” he says, almost apologetically. “It’s one of my great regrets. But at the same time, all development is the product of inadequacy. The reason human beings have such big brains is because we don’t have fur, we don’t have claws, we can’t swim well, we can’t float, we don’t have sharp teeth. If we had any of those things, we wouldn’t have had to develop cunning.
   “The reason I learned to play a lot of different musical instruments and produce my own records, etcetera, is because I can’t sing very well. If, when I was 10 years old, [I] realized I could sing like Bono or David Bowie, I would have given up playing instruments altogether and I would have just been a singer. That was my ultimate dream was to just sing — but I can’t. I don’t have a good enough voice to do that. My voice, I understand its limitations. It’s technically quite imperfect but it works in certain circumstances.”

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