.: APRIL-MAY 2002

Alanis Morissette takes on the world — and herself — on under rug swept
by Karen Bliss

“This one, I (wrote) from a new chapter place — new band, new boyfriend, a new headspace; just feeling so much more comfortable with my humanness,” Alanis Morissette says about where she was at personally when she started to create her latest album, Under Rug Swept.
   “Not that I’m feeling all Zen-ed out all the time,” she clarifies. “That’s just not true. But that I feel comfortable when I’m not Zen-ed out. I’m feeling comfortable with my own humanness, whether I’m angry or depressed, or whatever it is, it’s just okay.”
   The Canadian artist, now based in Los Angeles, is sitting in a Toronto hotel room, doing press behind Under Rug Swept, an album that she self-produced and wrote. As usual, Alanis radiates good vibes. She has an enormous smile, a robust laugh and a genuine gentleness. While some of the new songs explore victimization, control and loss of self, they are generally reflective and delivered with dots of warped humour.
   She doesn’t get into any negativity in the interview. What she’s written says it all, and while she’s quite willing to talk about her songs (yes, ‘Narcissus’ is playful and nasty, she agrees), she doesn’t get riled up or emotional. The act of writing the song puts the situation behind her. ‘Hands Clean’, the album’s controversial first single, is a prime example.
   “I was chronologically young with this person in particular, but with so many different men, and being a young woman and in a patriarchal environment, particularly the record industry, being a woman, some people were looking at it (the relationship) and saying, ‘That’s not really appropriate what’s going on,’” she recalls.
   “(The song) is my commenting on all of it because there was a long period of time where I was silent, silencing myself really, and not wanting to speak about it. So sharing it in ‘Hands Clean’ is my way of saying, ‘Okay, no more secrecy,’ and, at the same time, it’s not written as a way to get back, or revenge. That, I’m not interested in, but I do have interest in feeling liberated by finding the truth.”
   Morissette occasionally chuckles while answering questions, even when the thought doesn’t seem all that funny. It’s what she isn’t saying — that human beings sure do act stupid sometimes. ‘Narcissus’ begins “Dear Momma’s boy I know you’ve had your butt licked by your mother.” Who wouldn’t laugh at that? In ‘Flinch’, after agonizing over being shackled to a past love, she strikes from left field with: “This man knows not of how this information has affected me/ But he knows the colour of the car I just drove away in.” And in ‘21 Things I Want In A Lover’, she lists her requirements like a personal ad.
   “I’m laughing all the time,” Morissette says. “There are only certain things that can be shown or evidenced in a song. Usually, it’s a couple of years later [when] I’ll have objectivity on a song: ‘Oh, there’s humour in this.’”
   It seems ridiculous that critics once dubbed this 27-year-old an “angry young woman” (after years of enduring another one-dimensional tag in Canada, as a “teen pop queen”) based simply on her vitriolic lyrics, like the ones in her breakthrough hit, ‘You Oughta Know’, from 1995’s Jagged Little Pill, which went on to sell over 30 million copies. She’s never denied that anger is a part of her, as it is all of us, just not anywhere as big as the media played it.
   “What I love doing is I embrace my own anger,” she says. “And it’s frustrating when I meet people who don’t because when I get angry it just really freaks them out. How is this (relationship) going to be possible then? If I can’t be angry, I’m cutting off a part of myself. But I continue to evolve in embracing someone else’s [anger].
   “If somebody loses it in front of me, and they’re really enraged, I’m holding back a smile. And I see that there have been times when boyfriends of mine have been really frustrated because usually people start to cry or get angry — those two emotions in particular — and I’m smiling! And they’re like, ‘What are you smiling at?’” — she chuckles — “and (I say) ‘I’m just so happy to see this part of you come out.’
   “But I have to watch that because I’m sure that’s the last thing they want to see is me smiling,” she laughs.
   So while the majority of Under Rug Swept is Morissette delving into past relationships in order to let go and move on, the most telling song about the composer herself is the album’s closer. ‘Utopia’ is a wish for global tolerance and communication, powerful enough to evoke tears. Morissette, whose recent travels have included Lebanon, Croatia and Turkey, has seen firsthand that people are people wherever you go.
   “We’d gather around all in a room/ Fasten our belts engage in dialogue/ We’d all slow down and rest without guilt/ Not lie without fear disagree sans judgement,” she sings in the opening lines.
   Those lyrics, from ‘Utopia’, were written prior to 9/11 but have since become more impactful, beautiful and perhaps naive. “We would stay and respect and expand and include and allow and forgive and enjoy and evolve and discern and inquire and accept and admit and divulge and open and reach out and speak up,” she sings.
   “Just as much as we — Canadians or Americans, and the Western world — have our truths, so too do the Middle Easterners. I think our conscience level is reflected in the choices we make — in terms of driving airplanes into buildings, but it is something they really wouldn’t believe in,” she says of the people she met in the Middle East. “The part, to me, I think that this is mostly about is there is no tolerance for differences. Can there be a difference and would that be okay, whether it be religious or philosophical?”
   While her songs might reveal and unravel and try to make sense of her personal relationships over the years, when it comes to the bigger picture it seems Ms. Morissette has it together, endeavouring to better herself, and in some way, humanity. Lofty goals perhaps, but she has made a difference.
   Prior to Christmas, Friends Of The United Nations honoured her with The Global Tolerance Award for all her humanitarian efforts through the arts — from teaching kids about cultural diversity at the Museum of Tolerance in Los Angeles to the plight of the poorest nations at The Great Jubilee Concert For a Debt-Free World in Rome. She also participated in Toronto’s Music Without Borders concert (aiding refugees in Afghanistan) and the John Lennon Tribute to assist victims of the 9/11 attacks, as well as raising funds to support gun control.
   “I felt like I was already doing purpose-filled things. It just kind of affirmed it really,” Morissette says of the 9/11 attacks. “A lot of things that are happening lately, they’re like messages being sent to me saying, ‘Keep going, keep going, and keep reaching higher and higher.’”

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